Accidental Live Start Chaos

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Didn't mean to start.

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Oh, we're live.

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Oh shoot. Alright, here it is. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. See, now I've really messed it up. Hold on, watch this. Watch this. You saw nothing. Dang it.

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You're seeing everything. You saw everyone sees us live.

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Nothing.

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Right now.

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I I usually click a button. Oh man, this is just three.

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So this time we actually are live. Like live, live.

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We're live, live.

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And we're trying to figure out how to do this thing. We call life.

Welcome And The Podcast Premise

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The button disappeared. Okay, okay. Ready? Watch this. Hold your breath. Welcome back to Corbett Strategy, the podcast that could have been an email. I'm Anthony. And I'm Michael. And you saw nothing. We'll see you next week.

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If you watch the first 30 seconds of this, we apologize. We're sorry. We're sorry. We actually don't know what happened. It just kind of buffered out and we hit a button and we had to do a new thing where we were see-through. We're still figuring this out. Every time we say next time's gonna be perfect, it's gonna be flawless. It gets worse. It actually, it somehow gets worse.

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It does get worse every time. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Um I might need you to sign into your phone.

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Is it's this me?

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Yeah, one of us is.

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Wow, this is so good.

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This is a button. Welcome to the behind-the-scenes episode of Corporate Strategy Live, where I realize the setting. Firstly, YouTube needs to get better at their OBS settings.

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They gotta figure this out.

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They gotta figure this out.

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Because honestly, I can't even authenticate you right now. You're gonna have to.

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I can't do it either. I can't do it either. You know what? We're just not gonna be logged in. We're gonna we're I'm gonna I'm gonna switch. I'm gonna switch my phone is not on silent. Can you believe that? That's unacceptable behavior in the year 2026 of our Lord. Savior Odin. Um, what are we doing here? Hey, what are we doing? We're doing another Corporate Strategy Live. The podcast that could have been an email. I'm Anthony. And I'm Michael, it's good to be here. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me. I'm I'm so happy you're here. You know what else I'm happy about? What's that? I'm happy this week is over.

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Yeah? Yeah. Another brutal week.

Italian Cola And Taste Nostalgia

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But you know, you know what would make everything better? What's that? Everyone's favorite segment, only visible to those watching on YouTube. What are you drinking? Yeah. Hey, what are we drinking today, Michael? La Dolce Vita. I think this might be AI.

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It it kind of looked. I mean, or maybe it's someone who spent a lot of time drawing this illustration.

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La Dolce Vita. La Dolce, la dolce? La dolce vita. La dolce vita. La dolce vita. So what are we drinking? Bongiorno. Bienvenido. Okay. Corporate strategy. The podcast could have been an email. We're drinking La Dolce Vita. Cola. Just cola.

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Just cola. Just carbonated, pasteurized, non-alcoholic, soft.

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Soft drink. And it lets check it out. Where is it from? Where is it from? The AI text makes it very hard to read.

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It's gotta be Italy. It's Italy. It's Italy.

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It is Zona Industriale. Piano Lago 8750 Majone Italy. Wow.

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Is this from the same place you got the last street?

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It sure is. How nice. It sure is. Where does support a local business? I just do my best, especially on everyone's favorite segment, What Are You Drinking on Corporate Strategy, the podcast? It could have been an email. I'm Anthony. And I'm Michael again. Hey. What is this? So this is a cola. Is it just cola? This is an Italian cola with an AI-looking picture on the front. Nice. Of a woman in front of a fiat.

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Yeah, see, like she's got, if you look at her face, it's kind of like she has no nose. She's kind of like full. I don't even know what this is. This is great radio, by the way.

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Yeah, she's got skeletor face.

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Skeletor face for sure, but she's got like rosy cheeks.

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Standing in front of a very realistic looking Italian arch, in front of a very AI-looking fiat.

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Yep.

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There are birds. They're not consistently bird. I think this is AI. But you know what? I bet you. I bet you, even though the cover is AI, the drink itself is delicious. Time will tell let's crack into this bad boy.

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Let's do it.

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Oh.

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Oh, oh.

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That crisp crackle of a fresh cut can of soda. You ready? Hey, cheese.

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Cheers!

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Cheers! Uh Mazleton? Uh no, no. Uh that's Jewish. Kanpai? Uh that's Japanese. Korean. Is it? Maybe it is Japanese. Kanpai. Kanpai?

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I think it is Japanese.

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Maybe. It's how you say cheers.

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Uh Salud. Salud. Oh, salud. There we go.

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Also in uh China it's I think it's Gambé. I might be wrong with that. It's been a while. Makes sense.

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Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Okay. So everyone's everyone's favorite segment. La Dolce Vida, I will say right off the cuff, the impression is this is what Coca-Cola used to taste like.

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Yep. I 100% agree with you. This is like chocolate in a camp. You know when you get like a Mexican Coke?

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Yeah.

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And it's got the natural sugars in it? That's exactly what this tastes like.

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This is this harkens back to a purer, better time. Remember when McDonald's you used to go to the McDonald's play place and you had that tiny little soda cup you could just refill? This is what that tastes like.

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This tastes like a ball pit.

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Yes.

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In a fry smelling, totally disgusting place called McDonald's, but it was amazing.

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Question. Question for our European visitors, listeners, viewers, visitors, listeners. Whatever you are. Whatever you be. Did y'all have McDonald's playplaces? Is that like an exclusively American thing?

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You know, I wonder what they're gonna do next because they always follow kind of the big wave of things. Like they do, they get they had the playplace. Right. And then when technology came along, they put in game consoles. Like you could go there and you could play the Nintendo 64, the GameCube, all that. I wonder what's next for them. What's their next big thing?

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I remember uh playing Smash Bros. GameCube at Mickey D's.

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Super Mario Sunshine. That's what I remember. That's right. That's where I found it.

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They had the demo there. I mean, that's that's really the first Mario I ever played was Mario Sunshine. And I remember playing at Mickey D's. Like, this game is magic. This game is magic. And it's still the best Mario.

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I have yet to play through that whole thing as an adult. You should. And I think that's next on the list. It's good. I'm really excited to try it.

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The rumor is it's gonna launch on that uh Switch 2 GameCube.

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Oh yeah? The little uh arcade type thing. Yeah, that thing's awesome. I love it.

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It's great. I love it. Sunshine. There's nothing like sunshine.

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There really isn't.

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There's nothing like it.

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You gotta paint the town, put the color back into it. You gotta clean it up.

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Yeah.

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Just like we did in this podcast. Right before we started, we had to put color back into life.

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You'll notice we're a little more colorful than we used to be.

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Are we? Yeah, we are.

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I turned up the color.

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Oh, good. I hope you guys can tell what color we are.

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Maybe not, actually. Maybe it didn't actually change at all.

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I don't know that it looks any different. But you know what? I'll take it.

Vibe Check Gets Real Fast

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Yeah. I mean, we we take what we get, we don't mind a bit. Hey, um, VibeTreck.

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Should I be the host of this one? Uh VibeCheck. Um, do you want me to go first? Yeah, please. Yeah, you collect yourself. Uh I'll go ahead and kick us off. Uh Vibcheck for me. Um yeah, this week has flown by. It's been a week of productivity. It's been a week of many exciting opportunities. It's been a good week. I can't complain.

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Did you just do an Instagram post? Vibe check on our podcast. I did. It's been a week of productivity. It's been I can't complain. It's been wonderful. I saw the sun. I had the clouds come down. Life is good. Here's a picture. Sun scene.

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Picture of my wife and I holding hands.

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The dog is like doing the hands up in the background.

Hospital Trip From Chest Pain Scare

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We have AI editing the photo, so it just looks amazing. It's got that fellow. Everyone's so they've got FOMO of how great our life is. Yeah, it's kind of out this week fat. Oh, great. It wasn't bad. Great. It wasn't. I mean, I would say it was pretty fun. It was a pretty good week. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. I'm really happy for you. Well, thank you. Yeah. I appreciate it. Do you want to talk about you? Yeah, I went to the hospital. No, you did not. Are you serious? Wait, wait, I don't know this. You actually went to the hospital? I did.

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I did. Why? Uh Tuesday morning, 6 20 a.m.

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Oh my god.

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Tuesday morning, 6 20 a.m. I wake up an excruciating pain in my chest.

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You're kidding.

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In my chest. I wake up, I'm like. You didn't even tell me any of this. This is bad. No, I didn't. I didn't want you to worry. I I know how you get you worry about me. You do. Like you'd show up bringing cookies and heads of lettuce. And I'd be like, I don't need this. I don't need this head of lettuce, Michael. Thank you though. Um, so I had this excruciating pain in my chest. But it it went from my chest to my back, right? Like it was just like radiating throughout my upper torso. And I'm like, this really hurts. Like a lot. I've never woken up and felt this way before. And I didn't think anything of it. I just like I assumed some I sleep really funny. I'm very restless, tossing, turning sleeper. Uh so I assumed like I pulled some muscles in my my chest and my back sleeping. But then when I tried to get up, it was like the most painful pain I've ever felt. Just like, oh my gosh. Yeah. Uh so I I felt like I was gonna pass out.

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Oh man.

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Like I felt like I was gonna pass out, like the the blood was leaving my. Yeah. So uh Sarah, my wife, who's been on the pod before, starts looking up like, what are the symptoms of heart attack? Yeah. And it's all of these things. Oh my god. So I'm like, maybe I should go to the hospital. I don't know. Like, I don't feel like I'm having a heart attack, but I can't get up, right? Like, yeah, hurts to stand, hurts to move. Like it, I'm I'm really struggling. Let's go. Go to the hospital, I walk in, like, chest pains, they immediately like, okay, hook you up to an EKG.

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Like, that's all you gotta say with their like immediate action.

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If you ever need to go to the hospital, pro tip. Yeah, pro gamer tip. Chest pains, and then when they get you back in the room, tell them what's actually wrong. Because I've gone to this hospital before and I've had issues, but they're like, sit me down in the lobby, you can wait your turn.

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Yeah, they're like your sniffing.

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You think you're you think your gallbladder is exploded? Okay, well, you wait. Chest pains, get back here.

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So uh Yeah, if you have like I remember my brother, um, he had uh kidney stones. Oh yeah. And I remember he was just in excruciating pain, like walking back and forth. But they're like, people with chest pains are much more serious.

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He should have said chest pains.

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Yeah, he should have started with that. That's where you start. Get you into a room.

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You always start there, get a room, and then like I lied. I needed, I need kidney, I need kidney transplants immediately. So I'm in the room, they do the EKG, like your heart's fine. Like I figured it was, but what the heck is wrong with me?

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It's still terrible.

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So then, like, it's acid reflux. And they make me drink like the most disgusting cocktail of like mallox and some it's like the best way to describe it is if you took a mint chocolate milkshake and left it on the hood of your car for two weeks. That's what this tasted like. So I drank that. I'm like, are you better now? I'm like, no. I know what I know what heartburn feels like. It's not heartburn. Like, I can't sit up. I'm in pain, I'm in excruciating pain. So then they give me like a Motron IV and the pain starts to subside. And then I I really start to notice it's not my chest, it's my back.

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Really?

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So I'm like, I s it it feels like it's my back. Like, well, it could be your lungs, like something could be wrong with your lungs. Sure. So then they do a CT scan. I'm like, ah, you're fine. We we've done blood tests, we've done EKG, we've done CT. You're one of the healthiest people I've ever seen in my life. You probably just tore the muscles in your back. It's like, I yeah. Yeah. Sure. This is gonna cost me a thousand dollars, isn't it? But on the positive, uh, during the CT can't scan, they did find some stuff that I'll need to to follow up on and look at. Which is not, it's I'm not dying. Uh it's just, you know, normal, normal things you find you deal with. Um so like there's a silver lining to it. Is I, you know.

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You've already found some stuff.

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They're gonna find some things. I can get some, you know, I can spend more money on the American healthcare system and have more procedures done. And uh yeah, it was a I was I was at that hospital for six hours, almost seven hours.

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Because they one, they just want to monitor you to make sure nothing goes south. Yeah. Whatever they give you, they just want to see how you react, but it still sucks. It's the hospital for that long is the worst.

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It sucks the worst, and I came home and worked the rest of the day.

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That's even worse.

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Yeah, and then people were like, because I had to text some people, I'm like, hey, I can't make you a meeting, I'm in the hospital, I have chest pains. Pray for me.

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Just knock on wood for me, please. I need uh I need you to have positive.

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Those people are freaking out. Yeah. And I come back, I'm like responding to Slack messages, I'm sending out Jira tickets. Like, wait, are you working right now? Like, yeah. What should I be doing? Like playing Mario Sunshine? It's not on the Nintendo Switch yet. Like, what am I supposed to do? Uh so I uh it's been a it's been a long week. Well, how do you feel today? Um the pain has finally subsided. I did go to my primary care and I've started working on the other things they found. Um, I got muscle relaxers that I keep forgetting to pick up the prescription for.

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So you haven't even taken the medicine they could correct.

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And uh today my back feels pretty great. It's still like a little tender. Yeah, it's still a little tender. But like the day of like you could just like if you ran just gently, yeah, I it would like cause me excruciating pain. Like I just tore everything in my back in my sleep. That's crazy. I woke up like face down on my pillow, like yeah, this nut, like you know, like I I probably looked like a bad mummy.

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Yeah, yeah. I don't know how you did that.

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I don't either.

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But a good thing it was just muscles. Yeah. Because it could have been so much worse if it was anything else.

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And the way I see it is, you know, if it if it gets me on the train to recovery for other things discovered, great.

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Yeah, it's better you find it now and deal with it. Right.

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Yeah, right. And so, you know, silver lining. I just wish I wish I didn't have to work.

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Period.

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Yeah. Is that you know, that that's really my status updates? I'm really tired of working.

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Yeah, he just doesn't want to work.

Hydration Theory And Water Math

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I don't want to work anymore, guys. I'm tired.

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I wonder if you're just I'm tired. I wonder if you're just dehydrated. Are you drinking too many like no shape?

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My teammate told me that. Yeah? Yeah. He's like, you know, muscles cramp. That's happened to me when I was dehydrated. Like, I don't think I drank enough water that Monday. It could have been it. Like, I do think that might have been part of it. Nothing like going to the hospital for dehydration. Yeah, it's and then not actually getting an IV while you're there.

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Oh wait, didn't you do the Motrin IV or no?

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Yeah, there's a Motrin.

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Yeah, that's all you had in the. Oh, yeah, there's no. Fluid ID, yeah. Not doing any of that stuff. Jeez, man. You gotta you gotta start drinking. What are you drinking, Segments? We gotta do it every time. The Dolce Davida. But I think you need to you need to mix some water in. So, okay, tell me this. How much water do you drink?

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Uh I try and drink. Let's see, my cup is my cup is like 22 ounces. Okay, that's pretty good. So I'll do this. This is my secret. You want to know my secret? Sure, tell me. Tell everybody your second. Here's a corporate strategy tip for all of you listeners out there. Uh I buy, uh, it's called With My Little Eye. Body Armor Liquid IV.

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I think that's right. Yeah. We've done that before.

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Yeah, body armor, liquid IV. Yeah. So I buy body armor liquid IV powder packets. And I get the ones with zinc.

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Yeah.

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Zinc is good for you. Zinc is great for you.

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And I'll do a full 22 ounces mixed with one of those. So I do it, I put it in there, I swish it about. I drink half of it.

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Okay.

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Just on the spot. Drink half right there. So that's 11 ounces down.

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Yeah.

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I then fill up the cup the rest of the way with fresh water. Then you still have some flavor in there. So you still got some flavor. Yeah. But now I'm mixing in more water. Because the electrolytes, they're hydrating. Yep. They're already in there. They're already doing their job. And now I'm powering it down with water. So I'll do, let's see, that's 11 plus 22. So I'm now at 33.

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Math.

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And then I'll usually do two more of those in the day. Not the packets, just water. Right. So just 22, 22.

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That's pretty good.

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Yeah.

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I'd probably want to see you mix in at least like two more of those. Packets? No, maybe not packets, but two more, two more 22 ounces.

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Okay, so I should be drinking what? Like 20 ounces, 22, 22, 22. That's almost 100.

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Yeah, you need to do 100 ounces. That's almost 100 ounces of water.

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So I should drink 100 ounces of water a day.

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Yeah. Okay. I think that sounds right.

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I can achieve that. That's what I would do. I drink a ton of water. I think I'm I'm close.

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I mean, I basically need to do like a 22, basically. Yeah. I am always drinking water. Holy, he just pulled a bottle out of thin air like a magician. You know, I worked with some people that never drink water, and it blew my mind. How are they alive? I I don't know how it works because I sit even for like 10 minutes on this podcast. I'm thirsty. I'm thirsty all the time. Yeah. All I do is drink water.

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The more we talk, the more we expectorate. And that's just water loss right there.

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Yeah. It's okay. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's true too. But now I don't talk that much. I'm still thirsty all the time. Wow. I probably drink like that. Even without that expectoration happening. Yeah. Yeah. 15 to 20 of these a day at least. How many ounces is that?

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That's like 10 ounces. That's like a 10 ounce. I think it's more than that. You gotta get on my level, son.

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I think it's it's 20 ounces.

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This is 20 ounces.

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That can't be 20 ounces. It's 20 ounces. Alright. So maybe you are doing more than if yours is like double this. It's not double.

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It's just a little bigger. I just wanted to, I just wanted to call you out.

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Yeah, but sometimes I work with I worked with people that literally would drink like a sip of water a day. And then they'd drink coke, sweet tea, everything else. I'm like, how are you alive?

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So I do try, because I do first thing in the morning, I'll do coffee.

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Yeah.

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I do a cold brew. And uh, you know, it's maybe 10 ounces of cold brew. Yeah. Maybe maybe a little less than that. Uh, and I try to drink water right after that. Yeah. Because I know the cold brew's gonna flush me out, so I gotta start repl I gotta replenish the hydration. I'm an expectorator. I'm gonna be expectorating all day. So it's don't expectorate on people. I I can't help it. You should, I mean, look, you look at my screen. Look at how much expectorant is on the screen. There's a lot. It's disgusting. Covered in it, sadly.

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Well, I'm happy you're feeling better. I think start hydrating a little bit more. I think you're right. And I think you're gonna be a-okay.

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Yeah. Well, you know what else too? What's that? I hate to, I hate to bring it up.

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Oh no.

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I hate to bring it up, but I had that toe procedure done. Yeah. Uh almost two weeks ago now.

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We're talking about it.

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For the last, for the last since not this Monday, but last Monday, I have not been able to exercise.

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This is true. That makes a good thing.

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I think that's another thing too, is like I'm I'm not having I go for walks with my dogs. I like I haven't I really didn't start walking the dogs till like mid this week. Right. So I was just sitting all day for a week because I couldn't walk on the foot.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's brutal too. When you can't exercise, it's the absolute worst. Yeah. When I was going through my back stuff, it was the same way. I was like, I can't lift weights, I can't run. Right. But I'm still eating, but my physical activity has gone down. Right.

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You're just destroying your body.

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Your body is in awful shape.

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Just one small thing goes wrong and the entire house of cards crumbles. Yep.

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Isn't that crazy?

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That's the way it is. What is this?

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I'm just happy you're feeling better. I'm sure the listeners are happy you're feeling better. And yeah, I think I think they were betting on my death. You think so?

SPEAKER_01 18:45

I think it was a polymarket.

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You should have put that in the Discord that, hey guys, I'm in the hospital. Over under, what's the chance I make it out of here?

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I'm gonna put this on. Was it cat cashy?

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Yeah. Collie cashie. I think cashie is. Okay, yeah.

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Well let's get a polymarket started on like live or die. We'll Anthony make it this week.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Everybody do live. Otherwise, this podcast is gonna end.

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You will find a replacement. You will like next day. Hey guys.

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Hey, this is Antonio. It's the same thing. He's like, Anthony, look better. He expects a lot less.

Allbirds Pivots To AI For Attention

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He does. He does. Hey, speaking of expectoration. Oh no. Our our Discord, by the way, you should join our Discord and our Patreon. You can figure out how to do that by checking out your show notes or clicking the link on the YouTube. They were talking about something that we did not bring up last week. And shame on us. Shame on us for not bringing this up. We did. Did you know?

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Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Did you know the shoe company All Birds announced, let me get the let me get the actual numbers here.

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It's so incredibly funny.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

All Birds announced AI. And it uh executes 50 million convertible finan uh so let's see turned into AI. So they announced they were doing they were turning into an AI stock company. And like legit the next day. Oh no. The company surged 600%. That's insane. Post-announcement. This is a okay. A shoe company surged 600%.

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This is a company who sells wool sneakers.

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They're great sneakers, by the way.

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I've never had them, but I've got to be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Shout out to Alberts. They're incredibly comfortable. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

But the fact that they're just like, hey guys, we're pivoting a company. We're an AI company now. And then their stock just surges. Like, is this just the magic key?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

$2.49 a share to$24.30. Oh, I got an idea. Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Hey guys, this is corporate strategy the podcast. Check it out. It used to be corporate strategy podcast. Now we're corporate strategy the AI company. We don't have stock. Join the Patreon, spend the money through the moon. That's what's going to happen. We're the AI company, corporate strategy now.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

We need stock. You just ruined it. Now it's never going to work. Because we already soft-announced it. Dang it.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

This is all companies need to do now, right? Or do you think this is like a one and done? You think more companies could do this?

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Sadly, I do think more companies can do this. I think the market is so stupid, is the nice word that I'm going to use. The market is so stupid right now. This could literally happen twice a week.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

And nothing would change. I'm convinced.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

There's so much money being invested.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

GameStop could say, hey guys, GameStop's, we're back. All AI games. Bam, through the roof. Yep. Walmart comes out and say, hey guys, we're Walmart AI. We AI shop for you now. Bam, through the roof. Like they don't have to execute, they don't have to do anything. I am, I am certain, let's go bet on the polymarket. Let's go make a polymarket bet. If a company announces that they're doing AI, their stock goes up, we'll win that bet 100% of the time.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

This is just absolutely insane because what does this company do? Like, what is their what is their plan now with all these manufacturers, these shippers, all these logistics, their whole staff? Like, what what do they do now? I don't want to I don't even understand this switch.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Well, it's a joke. It's not real. Oh, is it really not real? I thought this was real. No, it's not real. It's not real.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

So they they announced, like, hey, we're gonna do this, and then it actually was like, it was just a joke, guys.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Uh yeah, I I do believe so. Uh that makes it even more ridiculous. I I do believe so. Hold on, for the double checks.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Uh all birds, uh, to buy AI chips and rent them to AI companies, which I mean, that right now, if you have the money and you have the funds to do it, probably a good place to be.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Oh, apparently they are. They're just ditching their, they're ditching their footwear to become an AI company.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Did you think this was a joke the whole time? I thought it was a joke.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

I thought this was a joke.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

It's not even if it was April 1st, I'd be like, okay, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Like I legit thought this was a hey, look at us, we can do this.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

And you know what?

SPEAKER_01 22:46

But they're actually doing this.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

This makes it even worse because they were like environmentally conscious. Like that, wasn't that their whole thing?

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Their shoes were great.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

And now they're like, yeah, we're gonna go into AI and we're going to be uh chip purchasers, and that's going to ruin the power dynamic in the whole entire world and the amount of energy that we consume. I just I just it just doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

So I've been talking about the polymarket a lot.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

You have, I have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Oh, you're not familiar?

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Yeah, but at this point I'm kind of too afraid to ask.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

So there's this thing called the polymarket. And it's it's it's been a thing for for quite some time. And at its best, it is a system that allows people to voice what they think will happen to create fairly good uh wisdom of crowds data about things. Okay. But that's it at its best. Let's be real now. The poly market exists so people can bet on the stupidest crap.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Is this just props for companies? Like, I bet that this company's gonna do this by this period.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

It's so much worse than that. Yeah. It is it is basically bets that I bet that the president of the United States during the State of the Union is going to say sleepy Joe Biden.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Is it really?

SPEAKER_01 24:12

It's really that.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

We are that much into the betting culture.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

It is, I bet this live streamer will sneeze during the live stream.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

People bet on this?

SPEAKER_01 24:23

It is, I bet that this Instagram influencer is actually an AI. Like it is the dumbest, most unhinged, most stupid, and not technically legal in the United States, but yet everyone's doing it.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Not legal everywhere in some states.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Uh not in the United States.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Well, actually, it's more sports betting.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Correct. Sports betting is kind of okay. Yeah. In most states. And most of these polymarket companies do do sports betting. But when you start to look at like Cal Cashy and the others larger, uh, you will see that it's just the dumbest stuff. It's wild. And it's taking over. It's taking over the world. It just like AI. So now AI has like I just I see the Alberts AI thing. I see the polymarket. Just how many people are engaging with these systems? And I gotta think. I gotta ask the question. Ask. Go ahead. Are we okay? Like, are we okay? Is the was the meteor that took out the dinosaurs? Was that a gift?

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Was that a gift for the dinosaurs? They just got too intelligent, and they're like, you know what? This is actually the best thing that could happen.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Like, this is really what they deserve. This is what they deserve, actually. So here you go. Bam, zip pal, straight from the moon. You're dead now, dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

There is something interesting about like I mean, casinos are super addictive, right? And that's why, that's why they were regulated. But that's why they still like people still sit at slot machines all day long and gamble. They spend all their money doing it. And sports betting is like it's really similar. It used to be so regulated that you had to like find a bookie and you had to talk to your bookie who would place the bets, even so much as being in the place to place the bets. And then when it became digitized, it became a massive business because it's now everybody can do it from anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

And now, because it's being legalized in more and more states, and it's so easy where I can spend 50 cents and put a bet on something like a sports game or something like that. People do it all the time. I know a ton of people that are sports betting on literally everything. Some of the craziest stuff, like the the head or the coin toss in the beginning of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Heads or tails, big, big betting. Or over under, they're gonna kick three field goals from 40 plus out. And if they do that, I make a thousand to one on my bet.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Like that stuff is just wild. I get why it's fun. But the fact that it's proliferating the rest of life, I feel like that's really bad.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

It's really society. I I think, I think just in on on the whole. In the whole, no. On the whole. Around the whole.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

No, we're not even talking about it. I think it's on the hole with a W.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Let's hope it is. We're not on a good path.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

We're really not. It's very concerning. I just every week I learn something new, and I'm like, I wish I didn't learn this. I wish I knowledge is a curse. Yeah. Knowledge is a curse. I have a theory. You know, with this we've had some pretty good um Patreon content, which it's too spicy for us to talk about here.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

It is.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

But I'm gonna drop an example of the kind of nonsense that we get up to on Patreon.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

I don't know what you're gonna drop here.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

You know where do you know where I think we came from?

SPEAKER_02 27:46

Where?

SPEAKER_01 27:46

I have a theory. Are you ready for this? You ready for this? I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Listeners? I don't think anyone's ready for what you're about to say.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

I want you to think about Australia. Okay. Australia was once a prison. Yep. And now you exile people. It's a country. True. Now, Australian had Aboriginal people, and then they had the prisoners, and you know, they kind of they they somewhat work together. We could probably treat the Aboriginal people of Australia a little bit better, but you know, for the most part, right? What if, Michael? What if just like Australia, Earth, is a prison? And we were sent here as a punishment for how freaking stupid and violent and mean and bad spirited we are. And we, you know, the Neanderthals, we just knocked them out, ate all the dinosaurs, just ate them. Sometimes you have to do it. Eat the dinosaurs to death. You're like, oh well, hey, we can't go back up there, so we're stuck here. I mean, it's a theory. I just look around that. I look around and I think about the stupidity of all of us. Like, you know, maybe it's not evolution. Maybe it's a punishment. Maybe we're all being punished. And we've all been punished.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

We're all just accepting it.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

For thousands of years. For what it is. We never we never crawled out of the ocean. We ate that thing. We stopped that thing from evolving. We came from up there. They dropped us here. They're like, you guys suck. You deserve your polymarket AI hellscape. You're go go invent the wheel and figure out fire, you losers. You can come back to the Galactic Federation in two billion years when you've atoned for your sins.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

It is it is pretty wild. Like going back to the whole switching to AI, like AI is the biggest, it's got to be what it felt like for the internet era. Like when the internet was becoming a thing and all these companies were starting up, like this has to be the same feeling of you just say internet and you get money.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Yeah.com.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Yeah, you say I'm an internet company, it's like immediately funded, millions of dollars. And there's gonna be a ton of things that fail within this AI era. And it is just it's crazy that the economics that make up the world like can afford to do this.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Like that that can they though? That that's the thing, is like you think about how much money, whatever they just sword, like$50 million or whatever it was. Yeah, no, it's like they just got that for saying we're an AI company now, even though it made no logical sense. Yeah, where does that money come from? Who has all this money? Google is investing in capital expenditure for I think their like physical data centers, like 600 billion.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

It's insane. In the next year, we don't have the resources.

AI Fluff Versus Real Work Output

SPEAKER_02 30:40

600 billion. We don't have the water. It's just it's just mind-blowing to think about how much wealth is in this world, and it kind of makes you think, what's the point of money after all? I just, I just it's really tough. And what I'm struggling with a lot with AI is uh real seeing real results. A lot of it is just fluff. It is really fluff, and it blows your mind for a second, and then you start to realize like, oh, this is actually like on right before I got here, actually on the way here, I was trying to figure something out. So I was talking with ChatGPT, was doing some math. I just wanted to try it. I wanted to see if it got any better. It couldn't even like keep basic equations in its head of simple math to be like X times Y plus Z equals the result. And like it kept on forgetting. And I'm like, that math isn't right. Like, I feel like it's getting dumber. It's definitely because of how much people are using it. I feel like we are polluting the positive data sets so much that AI is getting worse, and I feel like is regression, regressing, regressing. We are too.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

We're we're regressing as well.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

I I am as I say regression.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

This is the regression pod. Well, it's it's funny. I'm working on an AI project, which you talked about on the last pod. Um, and let me tell you the difference in using your own data versus using the global set. Yeah, like the outcomes are so much when I ask it to review a paper and like just check for our messaging consistency, right? It does exactly that because that's all it knows. Right. Right? Like it only has access to that thing. And what a great use case.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

The use case for the glorified autocomplete that we've dubbed AI. That's it right there. That's what it was made for. It's not your friend, it's not meant to teach you how to build a doghouse.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

Like, that's not what it even though it is surprisingly good, I've made a lot of recipes and fixed a lot of things. But also, I've been careful enough to say, I'm not gonna trust it just flat on the surface of what it tells me.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Well, what if an AI told you? What if an AI was like, hey, Michael, I see you want to make some mushroom risotto. Oh. I see you're interested in a nice, cheesy mushroom risotto. Go get these mushrooms. You go to the store, you get these mushrooms, like, you know, Michael, you live in a very nice part of the forest. You can go gather some of these mushrooms from the forest and mix it in, and your flavor will pop. And then you eat uh, what is it, screaming angel of death mushrooms, and you're dead. It could happen. It could happen. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. This has turned into like a manosphere podcast.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

You're gonna die. This is like the weird off stiller episode that Corporate Strategy is doing, and I don't know how to take it or where we're going with this, but that's what this world has come to. Exactly this. Yeah, it is something that like I want to see real results, and I do think it's possible. I think it's going to take us figuring out, like just like the dot-com era, figuring out how to use it. I think what you said is actually really insightful of, and I've noticed this too, just with all the work that I'm doing with AI and other things. It is all about context, it is all about tools and access.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

And like as you're defining, and I think this is honestly where we're going with like the agentic next stage of the workforce, just like the internet stage of the workforce, we're going to be getting into a place where it's like I no longer need to do all these micro edits on these documents. I just give it the style guide once.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

And then I've got an agent that every time I'm doing this project, it picks it up, does the review, passes it back to me. And that's going to make us much more efficient. But it's because you gave it the scope, you gave it the context, you gave it the access to the right tools.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

What do we lose? What do we lose when we do this?

SPEAKER_02 34:28

I think we just become more efficient. Do we then? I think it's done right. Do we? I think it is. I think it's like, like, think about email. What did you do prior to email? Can you remember a phone number? I can I mean I remember like two.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Do you know when I was a kid? When I was when you were a wee lad. 12 and I was starting to, you know, call people on the phone. I knew like 30 phone numbers.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

That's grandma, that's my friend, that's the kid down the street I want to play with. Like, I knew 30 phone numbers. I couldn't know 30 phone numbers today if you hit a rock on my head with the numbers built into it and tattooed it to my face. I would not know. Okay. Fair. We have lost when when we grew up and we would walk to a place or drive to a place, we didn't have map app. So we had to know, hey, this road intersects with this road, and that road, when you turn right down it, you gotta go two intersections further, that's gonna turn into this road. Like we had to know geographically where we are.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Do you think, and I'm not a doctor, that's what this whole podcast is, what I am not. Do you think it is good for us to have given up the thinking, to have relinquished the thoughts and the exercises our brain used to do to allow the computers to do it all for us?

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Do you think do you think any of that is actually that useful though? Like those to me are you think of high-level tasks, you think of low-level tasks. Like to me, a lot of those things are low-level tasks.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

When you need to remember something, do you remember or do you look it up?

SPEAKER_02 36:12

I remember the important things. But if it's a phone number, I mean, okay, let's think about it this way. We're just gonna play devil's advocate for the rest of this and just. Let's go, let's go.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

Come on, let's see where this goes. Where's this going?

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Okay, so if I if like remembering phone numbers prior to having a phone or a phone book or the internet, the whole point was I knew those numbers so I could contact and talk to that person. So I feel like we're just eliminating the middle steps, like with Siri, it's like call Anthony. Yeah. I never need to know your number. I don't need to fill my brain space. I can just say, call Anthony. And my my end result is I get to talk to Anthony.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Do you think that's if you answer and you're not in the hospital? That's a good point. I will be in the hospital. So you don't think the act of recall?

SPEAKER_02 37:00

I mean, I think it is, but like what my recall is the important stuff that I was gonna talk to you about.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

How much space does the brain have?

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Not enough.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

You think that? I think the brain, the brain, didn't they say that the brain is like petabyte? So like a petabyte of information. Is that really? Something like that. Yeah, like they've done they've done a study. Let me just uh let me just check the old good.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

But I think we're getting rid of like the low-level stuff you used to have to remember to do things. Now you don't have to remember those things, and you can still do the things so you can focus on other things. 2.5 petabytes. Oh, that's pretty good. It's pretty good. Or a million gigabytes. It's a lot of gigabytes.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

It's a lot of gigabytes. It's a lot of CD ROMs.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

That is a lot of floppies.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

You could flood the ocean with that many CD ROMs. You could really do some damage to some turtles.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Well, you see what I'm saying? Like, we are getting rid of, like, think about all that crap. Like, all the time that I spent in Jira as a project management tool. Like, I don't even need that tool. I need something I can chat with or talk to and just be like, hey, create these tasks, delegate them out to people. Okay, great. I'm moving.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

But what if that thing messes up? It could, but that's why you have human in the loop. But what if you're not verifying it? If you're not doing the things, so and and here's here's my devil's devil's advocate. Double devil's advocate. I want to double devil's advocate you. Okay, hit me. When when driving down the road and looking at your maps app, and suddenly your phone battery dies or your phone just dies, which all phones seem to do. Just, you know, hey, sporadically, I'm just gonna turn off for like 30 minutes and you're not gonna know why. No warning.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Hasn't happened to me in a while, but I agree. No warning. It does happen.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

How do you get home?

SPEAKER_02 38:34

This is true. How do you get home? I don't disagree with that. I think there are some core stuff you have to know how to do.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

I I think so, and I think we're giving up too much of it. Yeah. Because listen, to to the point of the AI, right? I write a paper. That means I have to go research the paper. I write a white paper.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

I'm gonna new hardware thing coming out. New hardware.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Well, I'm yeah, it's a it's a product, it's internal. I've got to talk to some people, I've got to learn what it does. I'm gonna go look at what some of the competitors are doing, what they're saying. Uh perhaps I might even go check an analyst resource or two. Yeah. And be able to do some Googles. I'm gonna do some Googles on some words. Just do a little couple, a couple of read-throughs and some googs. See what happens, right? Yeah. I'm gonna go put this paper together. This is based on my thoughts. This is my research. I took notes, I've I've formulated this thing, I've put it down. Now, if I asked an AI to do that, what would it come up with?

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Say, hey, do some deep research. You give it the sources you want to search, the things you don't care about. It might ask some questions, and then it goes off and does the research.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

And it brings you back what?

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Brings you back a massive document that is like, hey, here's all the research that I did.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

Now, if you said take that research training white paper, what does it do?

SPEAKER_02 39:45

Probably attempt to do the same thing. And is it gonna do a pretty good job? I would say it would have the information that it gathered. And at that point, you need to take, like, the way I look at it is it's not getting rid of your thinking. I think you gave it the job to eliminate you having to do a bunch of Google searches.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

So you said, hey, you go do those searches for me. Go find this analyst paper, go see if there's any online reports. Come back to me with what you found. I'm gonna go do something else. And what did you give up in that process? You gave up the research, the hard part. The learning. Is that the learning? That is the learning. That's the research. That's what do you think research is? But then you also have to look at each of those things and say, was my source accurate? Can I trust it? You're doing the same thing with Googling that you are with this.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

No, because you're trusting the output of an AI that what it's found is good enough. That's true. Now you're gonna make mistakes. You're you are outsourcing the research. Right. Yeah, right. You're gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna make mistakes. The paper won't be a perfect V1. Nothing's ever perfect the first time. The problem is AI makes it look perfect the first time.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

And people trust it. People do, Wade.

SPEAKER_02 40:51

And I would say when I'm in a crunch, I don't got time to review. This is good enough. Yeah. And I would say we're at a different level because we're in tech. I think we often forget how easily people that are not in tech just trust these things. Correct. They're like, oh yeah, this is amazing. This email, whatever, like send it out. This is a spiral. Yeah. For us, like I think we have a healthy skepticism of technology.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

We're like, we know, okay, let me try to understand what you did there. That was stupid. Right. But I think the general population doesn't do that.

Outsourcing Thought And Brain Atrophy

SPEAKER_01 41:24

Correct. And that is a little scary. And because they're not learning, this is my real, this is this is my ultimate fear, right? My grandparents both kind of lost it towards the end. Yeah. Like all my grandparents kind of lost it towards the end. And the thing I noticed about them, and the research is still out on this, but there is research. When you become sedentary, when you just watch news, TV all day. You don't do anything, you don't move, you don't stimulate the mind. You're not thinking you're letting other things think for you. The news tells me what to think. I watch movies, the movies tell me what to think. When you're not engaging in thought, the gray matter is not getting exercised.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Right? You're not creating new wrinkles in the brain.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

Your petabytes are empty and they're losing. You're losing petabytes.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Right. Those the what is it uh losing gigabytes. What is it called when you have those lost sectors of a disk? It's not corruption. It's like dark, it's not a dark sector.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

What's it called?

SPEAKER_01 42:26

See? See, this is the thing. Come back. We gotta recall. We can't remember. Well, we haven't thought about we haven't thought about losing disc sectors in a long time because it's all gone in VME. And it's not much, it's really not much of an issue anymore.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

Yeah, you don't even have to think about it.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

But you used to, back in the old days, discs would literally, it's not like disc rot, because that's when the the actual hardware component dies. It's when the electronics or the actual data software layer. It's at the tip of my mind. It's at the tip of my mind. It'll come back to you. It'll come back to me two years from now. And when you're sedentary, there's been there's been research. You can do your own research, but basically saying like it's not good for your brain. And that can lead to things like Alzheimer's and dementia. It's not direct, like A leads to B leads to C, but they have seen a correlation of that. Whereas they have done studies on people who play video games, people who play chess, go, reading, any kind of learning activity where you have to learn new rules, learn new patterns, take the time to exercise your brain, a lot less likely to suffer from cognitive diseases.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

So to the original question, when we stop thinking and start allowing this other thing to think for us, and it thinks incorrectly, and we trust it implicitly, what does 40 years from now look like for the m vast majority of the population that refuses to think?

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Well, if you if you even think about historically, like where we were before the internet.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

I would argue people were able to retain much more information. Information than they can today. They can keep their, and this is proven. I mean, this these studies have been done that the younger generation, their ability to pay attention is worse than that of a goldfish.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Like I think they I I read something where it was like 14 seconds for a goldfish to have like that short-term memory and remember what they were thinking about. It's like seven seconds now for the average youth.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

That's kind of wild.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Which is absolutely insane. It is insane. They just like there's so much happening around them. They have access to so much now, they don't focus because they don't need to. Everything is just returned to them, it's instant gratification. So it is a little scary when you think about that. But I think to use the brain is also the creative thinking that goes into creating, to saying, I have to write this white paper for what? Like create it, you can't outsource the creative thinking. Like AI is really bad at creating new things. And so as you're coming up with an angle, like I've seen it in the work that I've done, it knows old stuff well. But if you're like, hey, just create this something new, it's like, I can't do that. It tries. And you're like, this is crap. Like, no, that's not what I'm talking about. And then you have to really dig in to be like, I was talking about this, then do this, then do this. Okay, cool. But like you become the person that's doing the creative thinking and guiding for them to do the work. It's similar, like if I put it in tech terms. Do you need to know how the binary code works to be able to develop a web app?

SPEAKER_01 45:23

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

Because all that stuff doesn't matter. But does it help? I don't think so. I think it does. I don't think there's any point in bogging down your brain with the zeros and ones.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

No, I mean you don't get you don't gotta read it. But it does help to understand that a zero and a one is an on-stake and an off-state for an electronic device, right? Like it's a it's a computing flow. And when you understand computing flow, then you understand like the hardware and you understand the componentry and how it all fits together, what RAM, CPU, hard disk, right? Like you're when you understand the system, and then you go build the web app, you build something more elegant. Because you say, hey, I'm not just gonna assume I've got all the power in the world. I'm gonna assume I've got 32 gigs of RAM on an i7 with you know 3.5k uh megahertz computational power. I've got to write this thing elegantly because it's not gonna run on 99% of the machines that run it otherwise.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

But do you need to know that? Yes. Does that matter? Yes. No, you just say AI optimized this for a lower performance machine. No, because it can't. It actually does a really good job.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Never again guiding. For now. You just said earlier, you said. Roll back the tape. I'm Clark. Uh did you know that uh AI's getting worse? Clark's dead. AI's getting worse. I agree with that. You did say that.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

But that's the original thinking, I would say, we have polluted the data sets, and the stuff that I get back now from general models is crap.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Did we pollute the data sets? I think we did. Or did the people using AI output pollute the data sets?

SPEAKER_02 47:02

I think it's both. Do you think it's equally both? I think the general population using AI has significantly made it worse than what it was trained on.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

There we go.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

And I agree with that. But I also think if you define the small agents with the right context, sure, what I'm doing. The right guidelines, you can still get really good output where you don't need to know those zeros and ones. You said, hey, I already coached you about the things and the constraints and the guidelines that we're working with. You know this. That's all you do. I think that's what it ends up being. Like I imagine a world with an agentic workforce. And it's funny because in the last day I built this. You built the world? I built the whole world. I can show you the world if you'd like. You're like a little mermaid. I built this basic project management tool. I was using Monday to do a project management for a bunch of stuff, and I'm paying a monthly subscription. And it's fine. I'm putting things in tables, I'm moving around. I can probably do this in Excel. But I like the way it looks. I like the way that it's seamless and it feels good. But I was like, why don't I think about this different? Where rather than this just being a project management system, how would it look if AI was operating this with me? It's a coworker. And basically, what I've done is I've created 20 micro agents with context, scope, capabilities. And when I type in a task or whatever, it does the things. It's like, okay, cool, I'm the orchestrator. You know, these are the people I need to delegate to, or I can say, use this deep research agent to go search these things, whatever it is. And that has yielded really good results. And I did it in a day, Anthony. Yeah, of course you did. How insane is that, Michael? Imagine back when we were software engineers. That would have taken me three years. It would have taken you three years. And you know what? You'd have been better for it. You'd have been better for it. I would have. Because the end result is how do I make myself more efficient with something that I can keep my task straight and get the output that I'm hoping for? And now I'm gonna be more efficient and be able to do more, be able to create more.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

But again, we're not the general population, so I can't say this is the way everyone's gonna work.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

I'm gonna alter my prompt with you. I'm gonna alter the prompt because you're fine. I'm not worried about you. I'm not worried about me. I'm not actually, if you're listening or watching this, probably not worried about that. I'm not worried about you either. The fact that you've made it this far, I'm not worried about you.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

Actually, if you've hung on for this long, I'm kind of worried about you.

The Knowledge Worker Funnel Problem

SPEAKER_01 49:16

Not in the same reason. But I'm worried about you. I'm worried about you the same reason. I'm worried about everything. We're an exception, not the rule. Yeah. Like, we really are. I think thought workers, workers whose job is empowered by their mental skill set. There's there's not a shortage of that today. I think we're we're pretty well balanced. If anything, we might be overbalanced for what the yeah, over-indexed for what the workforce requires. A lot of knowledge workers out there. But as folks like you and me move into our 40s and 50s, and as the previous knowledge workers who knew more than we did move into their 50s in retirement, and the previous knowledge workers in them are just entering retirement, we're gonna start to lose very quickly like deep architectural knowledge work.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

That's kind of where when you were talking about this, I'm like, that's where my brain's going too. It's like the how things actually work.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 50:26

How quickly do you lose that?

SPEAKER_01 50:28

And that's fine. If the AI can do that, that's fine. Right? Like if we're able to teach the AI how to be a deep architectural knowledge worker, and deep architectural knowledge simply becomes a hobby, okay. But if the knowledge workers are trailing off because there's not enough work and people aren't able to find work, and I gotta go do something else, and then the vast majority of people, knowledge workers have never been the majority.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 50:58

Right? Yeah, you got a lot more blue-collar, you got a lot more service. Uh it knowledge work is generally, it's the pipeline, right? How many kids were in your elementary school, how many kids were in your senior high school, how many kids were in your college, like how many kids now work in tech, right? Like, or any kind of medical biology, chemistry, you name it, the knowledge work. It's a funnel. That's we're at the tip of the funnel here. And we're saying, hey, let's make the funnel smaller because we don't need them anymore. And everyone else underneath doesn't have the knowledge to become this anymore because it's not available and they've they've handed over their trust to a machine. So what happens in 10 years?

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Would you would you say that history repeats itself, as my wife likes to tell me all the time. It's very similar to that. I mean, do you know what a fax machine works anymore? Do you know how to use a quilt pen? Do you know even how to write encursors? Do you remember how to write encursors? I think I do, just from being beaten in my brain.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

You know what? Yes, I do. Yeah, I do know how these things work. And if I didn't, I would go learn if I wanted to.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

But I think the thing is, are people, specifically non-knowledge worker people, motivated to go learn the thing anymore?

SPEAKER_02 52:30

I think that's the problem, is they just.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Or when the system breaks and they're stuck on the highway, how do they get home?

SPEAKER_02 52:37

I mean, I see it all the time where somebody will have a tire, you know, pop right on the road. And they're just sitting there waiting for like AAA or whatever service to come get them. It's like, they don't know. You gotta spare, I'll take you five minutes to get that tire off, get into an audience on the road. Like they made it easy for anybody to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

But and I would say a very small percentage of people have any idea of how to do that.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Do you read the instructions when you get new things?

SPEAKER_02 53:03

No, not usually.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

You criminal. Oh no. You'd belong in a you belong in a prison.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

You don't want to ask me that question. My wife would also say, yeah, he doesn't do any of that.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

You belong in a prisoner.

SPEAKER_02 53:11

Then he does something wrong and he breaks something, and like, yeah, yeah, you can't. Well, you didn't read the instructions. Yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm a trial by fire. I still mess around with it, I figure it out. You dabble, but yeah, I dabble, I just don't read the formal instructions. The instructions are great. Well, they used to be great. Yeah, now who knows?

SPEAKER_01 53:26

Now not so much anymore.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

Because the instructions are being written by a machine and they suck. Exactly. It's probably generated by AI and it's awful. And you see like people with two left hands building a machine, it's like, use your third left hand, Anthony, to be able to do this.

SPEAKER_01 53:37

Oh, that's all I needed to do.

Addiction Economics And Magic Crossovers

SPEAKER_02 53:38

I only got one. So I I think to what you're saying, though, people do lose that creative thinking, and they do things like what you're talking about, the stupid polymark things. Like, that is what the 1% and the capitalist and the I don't know, evil evil people of the world. The fat cats. Yeah, the fat cats of the world are essentially building things to prey off addiction of people. Yes. And that consumes their brain space. Think of like China and Japan are really bad for this. They have a lot of mobile games. People spend a lot of time gotcha pond. Yeah, gotcha, a lot of gotcha pan. And that is scary because it's like they are consuming 15, 16 hours a day on their phone playing these games. And like, why does that happen? It's because big companies prey on people to build addictive things to at the end of the day get more money.

SPEAKER_01 54:27

You know, you know when I realized this is all truly just effed up beyond all recognition.

SPEAKER_02 54:34

I don't know if I want to hear that.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

You familiar with a card game called Magic the Gathering?

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Yes. You familiar? Quite. Okay. I've never actually played, but I know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

I played. I played a little bit in middle school.

SPEAKER_02 54:43

I had a deck. Actually, maybe we might have played in our in the golden years.

SPEAKER_01 54:46

Yeah, we might have dug around a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 54:48

Yeah, there was that comic store or whatever that we went to. That's true. We did go to the comic store.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Oh, those were the days. Great times. I missed those days. I wish we could go back. Magic the Gathering. Been around for over two decades now. It's a long-running company, property of Wizards of the Coast, based on the Dungeon and Dragons intellectual property. Magic the Gathering. Classic card game. You put down your energies, your lands to be able to play cards, you can fight other opponents' cards. Do you know what magic's done?

SPEAKER_02 55:20

I don't want to know. I mean, I imagine it's all digital now.

SPEAKER_01 55:23

Do you know magic is more popular now than it's ever been before? Because it's all online? Nope.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

Do it from your phone?

SPEAKER_01 55:28

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

Even worse than that.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

Tell me it's not the card opening, packet opening things.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

Well, that's a big part of it.

SPEAKER_02 55:35

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 55:36

What if I told you? Would you believe me? Would you believe me, Michael? If I told you that Magic the Gathering has SpongeBob cards.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

No.

SPEAKER_01 55:46

You can actually play a SpongeBob card.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

No, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

In Magic the Gathering. Ninja Turtles, Spider-Man, Final Fantasy. They sold out? They have sold out. And the business is booming.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

You want to see it? This is just this is just bad. This is just really bad. But it is like, I feel like everybody's done these collaborations or whatever you want to call them.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Secret Lair.

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Spongebob SquarePants, Legends of the Bikini Bob.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

This is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

That is a plank tick.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

That's a real card.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

The Tiny Tyrant. Toxic One.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

It's a real card.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

And this has opened up the door for Magic the Gathering. They've gotten more players than ever before. What are they doing? They're selling card packs.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:35

They're preying on FOMO. If I don't get these card packs, they're going to disappear. They're preying on, oh well, I want to play with my friends, so I have to get these cards, right? Like the game used to be the principle is I like Magic the Gathering. I'm gonna go buy Magic cards. It's just now it is I need to play Magic because I like Final Fantasy.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

And that is just everything right now.

SPEAKER_02 56:59

I think that's the way the corporations look at it. To say it in investor terms, they expanded their total addressable market, their TAM.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

They did.

SPEAKER_02 57:06

To find larger audiences, to partner with other companies where it's a win-win for both companies. You get the brand of SpongeBob out, you get more people playing Magic Gathering.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

Do you know what happened though? And then this is not universally true, but I I know some I have some friends who played Magic. Do you know what's happened? What's that? They quit playing.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

Yeah, I I would too. It's like you ruined the thing that I used to love.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

Right.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Right. But then I have other friends that have like started playing, and they're like addicted.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

Addicted. It's the way this world is going. But I don't think that'll ever not be true in our world, and it's really sad to say. It's sad. It's just sad. The creators and the concept of money and greed will always drive the world.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

And that is just a universal truth forever because we're humans. And so I feel like that's always going to happen where the 1% is going to manipulate the 99%. Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01 58:04

That might be the most sad and true thing that's ever been said on this podcast. So this is Corporate Strategy, the AI podcast. Tune in for your weekly AI news. We're just going to read AI prompt, uh AI-prompted corporate best strategy tips.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

We'll create AI avatars of ourselves. And we'll just let them do this podcast, and then we can go off and do exclusive Patreon content with me.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Yeah, we're just going to go play Roller Coast Tycoon, since apparently that's what everyone loves.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

We'll just stream that. How are you streaming and doing a live podcast at the same time? We gave up. Just like everyone else. This was our AI filler episode. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 58:42

So I didn't say this is filler. I think this is actually very relevant. It's not the world. I had a topic. I had a topic. Oh, was this not the topic? This is not the topic. But we're in too deep now.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

I mean this decaying the whole episode. This is the whole episode. I thought this was what you wanted to talk about. No, this was actually a side conversation.

SPEAKER_01 59:01

This is the end of the vibe check. Now you fully know how I'm doing. Hey, uh, you want to do the actual topic now? I'll just tell people about my back. They're like, have you ever considered maybe it's stress?

SPEAKER_02 59:13

Never.

SPEAKER_01 59:14

It's like, I don't, you know. These are just the thoughts that rattle around in my head day and night.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Stress is one of the biggest drivers of physical ailment. Your brain can do amazing things. Amazingly good, amazingly bad.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Sure can. Sure can.

Exit 8 And Proof Creativity Still Wins

SPEAKER_02 59:35

I don't like that evil, off-looking stare you just had. It concerns me.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

You know what makes me happy? What's that? You know what makes me really happy?

SPEAKER_02 59:46

We're still I thought you were gonna say La Dolce Vita. I'm kind of disappointed.

SPEAKER_01 59:49

I mean it's it was really good. It was good. It wasn't as good as the coffee soda. I prefer the coffee. The Manhattan special. Yeah. That was really good.

SPEAKER_02 59:56

But this one I'd give it, what would you rate it?

SPEAKER_01 59:58

Uh La Dolce Vita, I would give a six out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

I think I kind of like it more than Coke.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Oh, yeah. Oh, Coke is a three out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Yeah, Coke's like a five or six.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

Coke is they are out of water in the vending machine.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

Yeah, this is like seven or eight.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Manhattan special is probably an eight.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

I think Manhattan Special's an eight for me, for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

It's pretty solid.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

Definitely had some better sodas than both of those combined. Actually, I know one we're gonna do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:23

I feel like you're just the soda kind. Like I provide nothing to this segment.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

I went to Dollar General.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

I know you did.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:29

And it was trash. I appreciate zero.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:31

I thought about it. I really appreciate you.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:32

I was like, I want to bring you something, but their choices were awful.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

You know what? It's the thought. It truly is. Y'all, it's the thought that counts. That makes me happy.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:41

It's more important in the AI world than it's ever been.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

Ever been before? Oh my gosh. That's the title of the episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

AI. It's the thought that counts.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:52

It's the thought that counts.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:54

I love that. Wow. It took us an hour and change to get here, but we made it. I need therapy. I need a La Dolce Vita.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

The sequel. I was just gonna say, and it, you know, it truly is the thought that counts. I was gonna say, you know, I've seen two, I saw two movies this week.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:13

Oh, that's good. You've had a busy week.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:15

I've had a busy week. I mean, like hospital. We went the same day as the hospital. You're a monster. I did a full day of work and went to the movies afterwards. I saw a movie called Exit Eight. Okay. Never heard of it. The Guchi Hachi.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:26

Never heard of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

That's Exit Eight in Japanese, but good try. The uh it's it was there was an indie game. There's an indie PC, we're we're at an hour. There's an indie PC game. Takes about an hour to beat. Really cute, really cool game called Exit 8. It's a loop. Basically, you are walking through a Japanese subway hallway.

unknown 1:01:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

It's just a bunch of posters on the walls, a couple doors, you're walking through. Interesting. And every time you turn the corner, you're walking through the same hallway again. So you're just in a loop. Why are you in this loop? Well, you notice if you look at one of the signs, the sign says, if you spot an anomaly, go back. Oh. Anomaly. So as you walk through this hallway, you might say, hey, those eyes on that poster are following me as I walk. Oh, that man who walks by every time. Usually he doesn't make eye contact with me. I'm going back. And every time you go back, the exit number increases. Exit zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And if you get all eight, you exit. And that's the game. It is effectively spot the difference in a creepy Japanese subway game.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:38

I was about to say, this sounds incredibly creepy. Does it get way creepier?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

It gets way creepier.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

Oh man. So this movie must have been a horror movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:45

Well, I have great news. They took the concept of the game and managed to work it into an hour and 30 minutes of just absolute cinema perfection. Really? It's so good.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:57

Same concept, same idea.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:58

Same everything. Okay. Like down to the posters, right? Like it is a one-to-one recreation of the game. Interesting. But with a character that is not you playing. So you're basically watching a constructed playthrough of this game. And I cannot recommend this enough. I felt so good after seeing this movie. Because I'm like, one, how creative. Firstly, the game itself is creative and great. I loved it. To see it turn into a movie, you know, you could be creative. But they they were. Right. They took something and they used their brains, that thought that counts, and they made a story that moved me. And that gives me hope. I love that. I love you. And we love you. We sure do. And that's, I think that's it. That's another well-accomplished episode of Corporate Strategy, the podcast that could have been an email. Hey, if you made it this far, bless your heart.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

First of all, what are you doing? What are you doing with your life?

Discord Patreon Shoutouts And Goodbye

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

You should be learning something. And hey, you know what? A great place to learn things? What's that?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

Our Discord. Oh, it's it's true. We are always, I mean, there was some fiery conversation that I have yet to catch up on.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

I need to catch up.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

You look up, I was like, I've got like 60 notifications from Discord. What happened last night?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

I just want to give a couple shout outs to a couple Discord members. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna dock some live. Uh just uh Elmer Fud Individual Contributor, love y'all. Just love y'all.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

You guys have been providing all the conversation, the heat, great stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:22

We got King Ika always always showing up. We got DeReichel always bringing the heat.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:29

We haven't seen Squid Boy in a minute.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:31

Squid Boy showed up for a little bit. Yeah. We got some great members. Shout outs to all of you. We love you. Um, we really appreciate you, and we need to be better about getting in there and being part of the conversation. Maybe if one of us wasn't in the hospital so much. Yeah, it's true. Michael.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

Yeah, you had to get your toe cut off and now your chest, and I don't know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

I don't I don't know. Every week it's something new. Every week a new adventure. But it is the thought that counts. It is. If you want to join the Discord, you can do so by going to our Linktree. You can actually only get to the Linktree via the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:02

Not even the YouTube?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

Not on the YouTube, which we should fix.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:05

Yeah, we probably should add that in the description. Good call.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

I'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

Yeah, we'll do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:09

I'll do it. We also have a Patreon.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:11

We do have a Patreon.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

And we need to tell you this is why you don't do anything. You never do anything live. Why would you ever do it during an episode?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

We have two secret episodes on there already.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:24

Two secret episodes. Actually, I think we have three, don't we?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

Do we have three?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:27

We have an introductory one and we have our most recent one. We get spicy on these, y'all. We get spicy.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:35

Yeah, the last one I'm surprised there's no comments yet. I really want to get some feedback.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

I have a feeling people are like not going to be our Patreons anymore after watching that. We got spicy. But let me tell you something. I appreciate every single one of you patrons. Even if you're a free patron, we do appreciate you. And hey, if you want to help the podcast, right now our membership is netting enough for us to run this show. Without ads? Without ads. Whoa. Congratulations. Congratulations, y'all. We did this. We are now cash flow equal. We would like to expand this, go bigger, do more interactive content, do more, uh not just Patreon exclusive, but take some of that content and make it not so Patreon exclusive. We have goals. Every dollar that comes into this goes back to you. It is truly an investment into us, into you. We don't pocket any of this. So thank you for what you've done so far. If you want to help out and make the show better, sign up for our Patreon. It's a great place. It's a great place to be. It's only gonna grow. It's only gonna grow and it's only gonna make us better. So, truly from the bottom of our hearts, thank you to our patrons. Thank you to our Discord participants. If you want to join, check the links. And I think that will do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:42

Yeah, like, share, subscribe, go. Thanks. Sounds like weather's coming in.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:47

You gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:48

I gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:49

You gotta go. He's gotta go. Otherwise, the lightning will strike. Thor is angry. That's another episode of Corporate Strategy Podcast, but it could've shoulda. That's all, folks.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:01

Are we gonna dance out of here?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:07

I'm Anthony. And I'm Michael. And you're on mute. See you next week.